Will keep listening about the Mammoth. There isn't an enormous amount of them being used so it felt like it wouldn't be too painful of a transition if it was better for visual direction. I'm less concerned about the continuity with the T2 model, but the differences in cost, and the forced transition for people who were using the Mammoth are real issues. Keep feedback coming and I'll poke around on my side some more.

For people focused on homoginization: The problem here is that we don't have a complex purpose that we are lazily fulfilling by having every ship do it the same way, what we have is a very simple purpose and far too many ships meant to fulfill it. I think the division between the 2 roles outlined here is functional, and adds a bit of depth to a relatively straight forward job, but what many of you are asking for is basically new jobs. As some have mentioned above, adding entirely new purposes to t1 industrials, or subdividing the current one adds a lot of complexity and doesn't even approach the issue of balance within the class we already have and use.

We talked about specialized bays and other unique purposes, but ultimately decided that, for now, it was important to make sure that pilots from races other than Gallente weren't compelled to cross train for an Iteron 5, and also that there was at least one reasonable alternative within your race depending on what purpose you had in mind. We want to improve on industry in general, but that is a much bigger proposition and I don't think t1 industrials is the right starting point.

I'm just throwing it out there for a few more industrial options.

Pirate faction? Navy faction? Ore?

A pirate faction hauler with a drug smuggling hold sounds cool.

Please dont give haulers an ecm bonus, ecm is op and broken enough as it is. Giving haulers things like this would only remove the need for people to work as a team to get them into low sec with their precious things. Cloaky haulers and jump freighters are untouchable in low sec for the most part anyway.

I hope to see changes relating to speed, warp speed, hitpoints, align times and am loving some of the modular ideas that are floating around involving the containers.